tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post7865425255999861998..comments2024-03-26T07:24:43.732+00:00Comments on Words&Pictures: Critique - The Trauma!Candy Gourlayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07802791643303335762noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-21145702301682802652014-10-19T08:04:30.611+01:002014-10-19T08:04:30.611+01:00Amusing and very instructive, great combinationAmusing and very instructive, great combinationAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07138457615153960307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-77764037741798632352013-09-01T22:06:15.664+01:002013-09-01T22:06:15.664+01:00Opp, Jan and Dennis. I forgot to subscribe to post...Opp, Jan and Dennis. I forgot to subscribe to post comments and have only just spotted yours. <br /><br />Here's good luck to you, Dennis, and yes, Jan, it's definitely an emotional activity. I was almost in tears the other day as King Fred had to admit he'd failed Prince Bob and his son would have to spend eternity as a frog. Tragedy! Maureen Lynashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855138050232488108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-90787181775843707582013-08-19T15:44:57.045+01:002013-08-19T15:44:57.045+01:00Great help thank you Maureen I am going through th...Great help thank you Maureen I am going through this process myself before I finally submit to agents!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12925491056523789260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-31605333619707482612013-08-17T10:16:41.183+01:002013-08-17T10:16:41.183+01:00Yep Maureen, agree with Nick this is a GREAT tool....Yep Maureen, agree with Nick this is a GREAT tool. <br /><br />When someone says they 'love it' or even if they hated a particular character, I do tend to cherish that because for me writing is an emotional activity and I'm hoping to achieve an emotional response, so while those comments aren't as helpful practically, they certainly tick boxes. Jan Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335419896028312596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-50582832107735285472013-08-16T16:18:40.393+01:002013-08-16T16:18:40.393+01:00Thanks for the clarification. This is a great tool...Thanks for the clarification. This is a great tool - I'm going to use it the next time I have some feedback.Nick Crosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02571077124165351007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-49847853026877433592013-08-15T19:43:56.635+01:002013-08-15T19:43:56.635+01:00I did mean that, Rowena. I don't feel that my ...I did mean that, Rowena. I don't feel that my subjective opinion is as important as my technical opinion because my subjective opinion can't help the writer to develop their story.<br />Subjective - an emotional reaction, like it, don't like it.<br />Objective - It's about knowing what the writer is trying to do and supporting them to find the right techniques to pull it off..<br />But that's just my opinion, Nick.<br />Maureen Lynashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855138050232488108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-63726109432930552302013-08-15T12:46:45.356+01:002013-08-15T12:46:45.356+01:00For me it's the difference between emotional r...For me it's the difference between emotional reactions to the story and technical aspects of the craft. I can love a character & premise, even when the voice is inconsistent, the plot wanders all over the place, or the individual scene needs more suspense etc. But maybe Maureen meant something different.Rowena Househttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548957772863528477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-43899314947755678412013-08-15T11:37:42.782+01:002013-08-15T11:37:42.782+01:00Thank, Maureen, this is a really useful area to an...Thank, Maureen, this is a really useful area to analyse.<br /><br />A problem I have is drawing the line between subjective and objective - how do you do that? Surely all critique comments have some subjectivity to them?Nick Crosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02571077124165351007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-61061956517421578842013-08-15T10:24:13.804+01:002013-08-15T10:24:13.804+01:00Very interesting, Maureen. When critiquing others,...Very interesting, Maureen. When critiquing others, I find my subjective impression is often altered after an objective analysis - usually heading towards the middle ground, i.e. ones I loved at first seem less good, ones I disliked seem better. But like you, when it's my stuff under the microscope, I give much more weight to objective comments.Rowena Househttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548957772863528477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-90704061670255100872013-08-14T20:42:31.043+01:002013-08-14T20:42:31.043+01:00My reaction to subjective comments used to be quit...My reaction to subjective comments used to be quite emotional, Rowena. I could be down in the dumps for days. Then I joined a book club. Our members have diverse tastes and we cheer if one person loves a book and another hates it. We embrace the subjectivity and recognise that we all bring our life experiences, knowledge and preferences to our reading. It gave me an insight into what it must be like going through the slushpile and how delightful it must be for an agent/editor when they find a gem that they relate to.<br />So, in answer, no, I don't go back to the subjective ones. Maureen Lynashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855138050232488108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-65758773991930910922013-08-14T18:01:20.354+01:002013-08-14T18:01:20.354+01:00Great advice, Maureen. Colour coding idea fab. It&...Great advice, Maureen. Colour coding idea fab. It's brave to ignore all subjective comments. Don't you ever go back to them after another quart of the slug-stuff?Rowena Househttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11548957772863528477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-55911340301521431412013-08-14T15:32:25.902+01:002013-08-14T15:32:25.902+01:00Try the flavoured ones, Amanda. The pure stuff is ...Try the flavoured ones, Amanda. The pure stuff is an acquired taste.Maureen Lynashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855138050232488108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-67513083223492475362013-08-14T15:29:48.076+01:002013-08-14T15:29:48.076+01:00Thanks, Paula. I did try to write something seriou...Thanks, Paula. I did try to write something serious once. Failed.Maureen Lynashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855138050232488108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-47980503488821183592013-08-14T13:40:19.151+01:002013-08-14T13:40:19.151+01:00That's brilliant Maureen! Excellent advice, I ...That's brilliant Maureen! Excellent advice, I will put slug juice on my shopping list.Amanda Lillywhitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00024122783094176731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-33647159624537200492013-08-14T10:19:56.883+01:002013-08-14T10:19:56.883+01:00What a great piece Maureen! You always add such gr...What a great piece Maureen! You always add such great touches of character and humour, even in something short like this.Paula Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01455380645038090414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-89860462283604388672013-08-14T09:59:14.500+01:002013-08-14T09:59:14.500+01:00Thanks, I aimed for both so I'm very pleased t...Thanks, I aimed for both so I'm very pleased to hear it worked. Yay! Maureen Lynashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855138050232488108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222814162697318696.post-63256675363860896212013-08-14T07:38:20.896+01:002013-08-14T07:38:20.896+01:00Thanks Maureen, that was useful AND made me laugh....Thanks Maureen, that was useful AND made me laugh. Heather Kilgourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07553036216216310308noreply@blogger.com